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International / translations
« Last post by Frederic Bouquet on Thu 2011-04-28 10:40 »
Hello,

The question of translating this site in other languages is one we are currently playing with, so yes, we are indeed interested! Thank you very much for raising this possibility.

a caveat: this site is huge. We planned it smaller, but we let the pen free and ended up with something around 150 pages long document when glued end to end. Translating it is quite a huge job. What we did here, for the english translation, was to hire a professional translator, and then proof read his text in order to check for the scientific specificities that he were not aware of.

Once the text is translated, we need:
- to adapt the web site structure for the new version;
- to construct the html pages; unfortunately, due to the complexity of the layout, this has to be done for every language.

But we are convinced that translating this site would be great, and we are actively looking for ways of doing it. I am not raising these points to deter you, but to warn you that a minimum of organization is needed.

If you have the budget, hiring a translator is the quickest solution. Another solution could be to have a collaboration with the english department of your universities, if you could interest them. Translating the site could be done by students as part of their cursus, and you would only need to proof read the result (this is already quite a work). And asking a small budget to your university for the construction of the web pages would also help; to build the site we also hired a company, and we will ask them what it would cost to add other languages.

We have a word file, with the content of the site, and indeed should a translation be done, it should be from this file, and not from the web!

Do you have connections within the English department of your University? (that is for those like me who do not have a perfect control over the english language -- no smug remark from you Vegard...) I will ask Julien to put some precise detail of the exact length of the total text (a word count, or a character count).

Thank you,

Fred


EDITED : the page count of 150 includes pictures, without pictures the page count is around 70, see the post of Julien Bobroff above.
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Dear Fred,
if you wish to translate the site in Bulgarian I can to do it.
Nadja
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Not so promptly but also I am sending congratulations Fred! If you need or wish to translate the site to Polish I can find a student to do it in a framework of students work.

Speaking about translations - are you able to provide a Word file or similar with all the English text? Then it would be easier to translate.

And Tomasz, I see that unfortunately "nadprzewodnik.pl" is taken by a stupid domain hoarder and it is not even for sale (like thousands of other domains with the same owner, a company registered in Cyprus). Oh well.
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Not so promptly but also I am sending congratulations Fred! If you need or wish to translate the site to Polish I can find a student to do it in a framework of students work.
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Using the forum / Fred's attachments
« Last post by Vegard Stornes Farstad on Tue 2011-04-12 20:53 »


meissner-squaremagnet-comparaison.jpg 3064x1912
Wed 2009-03-04 14:40
in Why is the magnet tilted?
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=44


I would prefer leave the picture, but a low res picture would do the trick. Could you remove the current picture, and add the one that is added at the bottom of this post (and then delete it from this post) ?
here is the link to the post :
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=442.msg2861#msg2861


Again it is clear that this forum is not meant as a file repository - attachments are typically pruned by age as in a discussion forum by definition posts get outdated and so do the attachments.

This is why I would have to download the attachment from this thread, save it to my hard disk, then edit and upload it to the other post in addition to deleting both the original hires photo and the lowres version in this thread (when uploading to the other thread, the forum makes a copy, you cannot link to the file already uploaded).

So each file attachment can only be linked to one post, in some ways I see that this keeps the programming and actually also user interface simpler.

As a result of this, and since you vote to keep around half of the attachments below (the ones remaining after those two that you already deleted yourself), I think it is not worth the work. After all, we are talking about attachments of 500-900 kB, not those of 1 MB or more (of which there are plenty). So I think we can check you off the list and rather move on to other users and their attachments :) Thanks for the effort, Fred, it was very useful and also helped me understand more about how this works, so I can be more efficient for the future cleanup.
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Using the forum / Re: Managing attachments
« Last post by Frederic Bouquet on Tue 2011-04-12 20:50 »
...
So perhaps the deletion works when the author removes the files themselves?

That would be a great news. Here are the posts (with the dates) the files were attached to :

http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=143.msg6136#msg6136
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=452.msg4342#msg4342

But if you can not find the files in the forum, then they must be deleted, simple as that.

Cheers,

Fred
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Using the forum / Re: Managing attachments
« Last post by Vegard Stornes Farstad on Tue 2011-04-12 20:41 »

Here are the two files that I tried to "delete" myself :

1)
Course_ 4.3 Discovering levitation.pdf
in User help for the database

2)
resultat.ppt
in Moebius track    

I am afraid you will have to hunt them and delete them yourself then.


It is not that difficult to list all the files uploaded by you (sort by user) and then search for those filenames. The files are sorted chronologically by the way (I can't change this when I sort by user), so the date of the post will be helpful. In any case, I already looked through all your files and these two are not among them. I found other files in the Moebius track thread, but not that one. (Not looking in the thread, but in the file archive).

So perhaps the deletion works when the author removes the files themselves?
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Using the forum / Re: Managing attachments
« Last post by Frederic Bouquet on Tue 2011-04-12 15:01 »


Removing the link doesn't delete the actual file. So I have to delete each file manually anyway (from the file management system in the admin part), and if you remove the link from the post without telling me the filename I cannot trace it and delete it. So in fact it is better if I do it myself, and then you will also see the message "deleted by admin" which is a kind of confirmation.

Will go through these files a little later, thanks again for helping out!

Duh, this is a very bad news (for you)...

Here are the two files that I tried to "delete" myself :

1)
Course_ 4.3 Discovering levitation.pdf
in User help for the database

2)
resultat.ppt
in Moebius track   

I am afraid you will have to hunt them and delete them yourself then.

Sorry,

Fred
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Using the forum / Re: Managing attachments
« Last post by Vegard Stornes Farstad on Tue 2011-04-12 14:25 »

Easy as pie. But since some threads are closed, I do not have the rights to make changes. So I am afraid you will have to do so yourself (my advice would be to remove at least temporarily these closures, because you may end up with a lot of word if every body do the same as I do).


Removing the link doesn't delete the actual file. So I have to delete each file manually anyway (from the file management system in the admin part), and if you remove the link from the post without telling me the filename I cannot trace it and delete it. So in fact it is better if I do it myself, and then you will also see the message "deleted by admin" which is a kind of confirmation.

Will go through these files a little later, thanks again for helping out!
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Using the forum / Re: Managing attachments
« Last post by Frederic Bouquet on Tue 2011-04-12 13:21 »

Done. I learned halfway that instead of unchecking the attachment when modifying the message, I just delete the attachment and get the message "deleted by admin" in addition to the EDIT text, which is more instructive. And the search engine stinks...


Hello,

Yep, a pity that search engine, it cripples the usability of the forum, I do have to remember where the threads are...

You can perhaps check these attachments also (sorry I cannot give you exact links, that doesn't appear in the list of attachments):

...


You don't have to move files that you think are still useful to keep in the forum, it is more about removing those that we have finished discussing.

Easy as pie. But since some threads are closed, I do not have the rights to make changes. So I am afraid you will have to do so yourself (my advice would be to remove at least temporarily these closures, because you may end up with a lot of word if every body do the same as I do).



meissner-squaremagnet-comparaison.jpg 3064x1912
Wed 2009-03-04 14:40
in Why is the magnet tilted?
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=44


I would prefer leave the picture, but a low res picture would do the trick. Could you remove the current picture, and add the one that is added at the bottom of this post (and then delete it from this post) ?
here is the link to the post :
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=442.msg2861#msg2861



MOSEM_Machine_Work_for_levitation_and_train_20081212_FB.pdf
Thu 2008-12-11 23:08
in Prototypes and a production phase

MOSEM_Machine_Work_for_levitation_and_train_20090206_FB.pdf
Sun 2009-02-08 12:45
in Prototypes and a production phase
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=341


http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=341.msg2650#msg2650
This first post I think is best to leave, since it is the latest.


http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=341.msg2088#msg2088
This other one is an older version, so best to remove the attachment, and add a note :
--------
EDIT : due to the size quota of the forum, the attachment was removed, but a more recent version can be found in the following post :
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=341.msg2650#msg2650
---------


Note added :
the file to be removed is
MOSEM_Machine_Work_for_levitation_and_train_20081212_FB.pdf

the file to be kept is
MOSEM_Machine_Work_for_levitation_and_train_20090206_FB.pdf



MOSEM_WP3_HTKExp3_4_list_of_materials_20090211_FB.doc
Sun 2009-02-15 21:47
in Materials and companies

MOSEM_WP3_HTKExp3_4_list_of_materials_20090302_FB.doc
Mon 2009-03-02 15:05
in Materials and companies
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=80


http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=80.msg2846#msg2846
This first post contains the more uptodate recommendations I had about what should contain the high tech kit, so best to leave it. However you can gain some space by removing the doc file, and putting the pdf version that I join to this message. So you need to :
-remove the doc attachment ;
-edit and add the pdf file that is attached to this message;
-remove the pdf file from this message...


http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=80.msg2731#msg2731
This is an older version. Just remove the attachment and add :
--------
EDIT : due to the size quota of the forum, the attachment was removed, but a more recent version can be found in the following post :
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=80.msg2846#msg2846
---------


MOSEM_narrative_report_final_partner_P10_Paris.zip
Thu 2010-04-29 17:10
in MOSEM: Final report - narrative
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=594


http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=594.msg5557#msg5557
This is an admin file. I did not find on moodle a place to put it, and since this is potentially important, i would prefer that you create the location where you would like these kind of file stored. Sorry to burden you with this, but since the admin of MOSEM has been rocky, I prefer to avoid misplacment of documents... Once you have created the place, you can move this document in it, or you can ask me to do it.


Course_ 4.3 Discovering lev....pdf
Tue 2010-07-27 10:29
in User help for the database
http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=143


http://forum.mosem.no/index.php?topic=143.msg6136#msg6136
This post was not protected, so I was able to edit it myself. I just deleted the file, it was a screenshot in order to show you how the database looked to me, no real reason to keep it now that you have full access and a proper configuration.


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